Giles Gray

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  How do I get you to Visit my house

  by I have question in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  okay simply put i am not of your faith however my faith allows me to learn and study other people's beliefs and faith's.

  now i believe at least from what i have seen that you people are humble and respectful, when interacting with me.

  and that watchtower book thing u hand out has actually helped me in the past.... taught me that resentment only hurts me and not the person i resented, that was really needed at the time.

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  Giles Gray

  This is more of an ex-JW forum.

  Still worth sticking around and would be beneficial and insightful for finding out about the Watchtower beliefs I'm sure.
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  Gas or Electric Stove

  by just fine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am getting new appliances.

  i have decided on black stainless for the finish.

  the house is stubbed for gas and electric for the range.

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  Giles Gray

  Gas... just in case the JWs come knocking and you get the urge to stick your head in the oven.
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  Uninvited...again...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

  some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

  an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

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  AA:- "I would have gone. JW rules do not apply to me and I will not have my decisions influenced by their bullshit manipulation and abuse."

  No wonder you were not invited. With that kind of attitude... It's just not cricket!

  AA:- " Other never-JW people will be at the party too. Apparently they are much better company than I am"

  Their loss is our gain. Spoilsports.

  Hope those points you made open your wife's mind just a little.
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  Uninvited...again...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

  some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

  an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

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  AA:- "I explained to him what a disgusting practice it is to try and force people into a religion by using emotional blackmail. That's it's very hypocritical to send letters to Putin demanding freedom of religion, yet refusing to allow others their freedom."

  Great point.

  Hope that got him and your other half thinking.

  I might have to ask the JWs that question.

  I'm dying to know... would you have gone if you were invited?
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  Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. social
  2. humour

  is this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.

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  DOC:- "old Sister Murphy who for years has had a beard that would embarrass most teenage guys"

  Reminds me of one day when I was at the book group. An elderly sister had a very endearing but cheeky child sitting on her knee, having a chit chat.

  All of a sudden the young boy looked her right in the face, and in a very stark but mischievous tone, pointed out to the sister that she had a moustache.

  One of the few times I was glad I attended the book study.
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  No matter our beliefs, we can all benefit from some simple wisdom about "karma." 12 Laws of Karma That Will Change Your Life

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether atheist, such as myself, agnostic or a strong believer in a god, i'd like to share something with you all about karma.

  it relates back to my post about marcus aurelius and a quote often accredited to him on the best way to live.

  i think this will benefit those who are just waking up from the jw cult and wondering, what's next?.

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  Giles Gray

  kpop:- I'm going to be a cut-throat, vicious SOB and take whatever I can get from anyone.

  That's the spirit...

  In so many cases in life, this approach actually works better than being considerate and kind.
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  JW Guide to Critical Thinking

  by Saename in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just found this chart on reddit here: reddit.

  and here's a copy:.

  what i find scary is that... it's accurate.

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  Giles Gray

  So true.

  This strategy encourages Jehovah's Witnesses to make the claim they use critical thinking.

  It's enough to make you facepalm.
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  Sudden General Election in UK to be held June 8th 2017

  by freddo in

  1. social
  2. current

  theresa may the british p.m. has called for an election.. the house of commons has to vote tomorrow and have a two-thirds majority to agree and the main opposition parties want it to happen too so it looks pretty certain to go ahead..

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  So Scotland will vote in the UK General Election.

  Then they hold a referendum and could vote to leave the UK.

  So if Scotland leaves and I don't like the result of the General Election can I protest to have another election after they have gone?

  What a mess.
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  $25,000 for one-day assembly in our area

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000.

  the speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the atm machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

  after the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards.

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  Giles Gray

  Maybe a paedophile lawsuit happened during the interval.
  
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  Are Children born crippled/diseased, uncared for, and dying prematurely proof that God does not exist?

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are children born crippled/diseased, uncared for, and dying prematurely proof that god does not exist?.

  1) what do children born healthy and well cared for prove?

  2) what do babies aborted (many of whom might have led a normal healthy life, and some of whom might have contributed much to the society like many scientists, doctors, engineers ....) prove?.

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  Giles Gray

  If we are talking about the god of the bible... it would make him a complete piece of shit, if it was believed that he does exist, being that he indulged in the slaughter of innocent infants.

  But on that one fact that bad things happen to children... no, it would not on its own prove god does not exist. It would just prove that a god is hopelessly incompetent.